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Pinion angle & what I had to do.


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Ok, I've been searching around here and there a little bit for the last two weeks in regards to pinion angle setup in relation to the driveshaft and engine/transmission angle. I found the following article today to be the most helpful:
http://www.carcraft.com/howto/91758/

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How To Set Pinion Angle
Ask 10 Guys About Optimal Pinion Angle And A Lively Debate Will Ensue

By Marko Radielovic

Pinion angle simply refers to the angle of the differential’s pinion in relation to the driveshaft. But ask 10 guys about optimal pinion angle and a lively debate will ensue. To get a range of opinions, we spoke to several well-known and respected chassis builders about pinion angles. While their recommendations differ somewhat, they all agree on some basic principals. We’ll give you their take on the subject, and show you the various ways to measure and correct this very important aspect of chassis tuning.

Optimum Pinion Angle

Due to the dynamic nature of an automobile chassis, the various angles and symmetries are constantly changing, which adds to the complexity of obtaining driveline nirvana. Furthermore, we live in the real world where time takes its toll on our automobiles. Engines may not sit squarely in their motor mounts, motor mounts may not sit properly between the framerails, crossmembers may not sit straight, and who knows where the rearend is positioned (ours is usually in a chair behind a desk). Despite all these factors affecting the positioning of our drivetrains, they seem to work well enough in most cases, at least on the street in basically stock applications. We owe this functionality to the universal joint, which, by design, corrects for slight misalignments between the driving components (crankshaft and transmission) and the driven components (driveshaft and differential) of the drivetrain.

Pro Stock chassis builder Jerry Bickel assures us, “there is no mystery to pinion angle.” Setting the pinion angle is the final step in driveline alignment. The goal is to create a straight line from the back of the crankshaft through the transmission, driveshaft, and the pinion of the differential—under load. Due to the tendency of the pinion to rise under load, some angle must be present at rest.

How well the rear suspension controls the position of the rearend is the most critical issue that determines how much pinion angle will be needed. Some types of rear suspensions offer more control than others and require different angles. According to Bickel, a ladder-bar suspension normally requires ½ degree of pinion angle, a four-link requires 1-2½ degrees, and a leaf-spring suspension requires up to 6 to 7 degrees. In all examples, we’re talking about negative pinion angle, i.e., the pinion is nose-down in relation to the driveshaft. Bickel says a straight driveline delivers the most power to the rear wheels. For more on race car chassis tuning, Bickel offers classes as well as detailed books on the topic.

Ray Currie of Currie Enterprises, which specializes in rearends and rear suspension systems for race, street, and off-road applications, agrees that pinion angle is a pretty simple (there’s that word again) concept. He explains that a universal joint is designed to handle between 1 and 3 degrees of pinion angle. This is a safe operating range for the U-joint. If the U-joint is forced beyond its normal range, it can hyperextend and lead to catastrophic failure. Currie always strives for 2 degrees of pinion angle on a street car regardless of the type of rear suspension being used.


With a leaf spring–equipped car, the differential movement isn’t nearly as controlled as that of a four-link suspension, so more angle may be needed to prevent the U-joint from hyperextending beyond zero degrees under load. Sometimes people increase the pinion angle to increase dragstrip bite, but Currie does not recommend this approach for a street car. Currie says “ideal is ideal,” and the correct pinion angle should be incorporated in the part-time as well as the full-time race car.

Suspension specialist Dick Miller bases pinion angle settings on horsepower. Miller likes to see 2 degrees of negative pinion angle (relative to the driveshaft) on applications in the 400hp range, 3½ to 4½ degrees in the 500hp to 650hp range, and up to 7 degrees with 700 horses or more. Miller also acknowledges that the greater the pinion angle, the more horsepower the driveline will consume, but it’s a compromise that must be made. Miller notes that these angles are merely guidelines, and each individual combination should be fine-tuned.

Setting Pinion Angle

We paid a visit to Currie’s shop in Anaheim, California, home of Mickey Mouse and the Magic Kingdom, to observe the method he uses to measure pinion angle. Currie takes the process one step further by factoring in the transmission output shaft’s angle in determining where the pinion angle should be set.

Sometimes corrections need to be made at the front of the vehicle to ensure that the engine and trans are sitting in the proper location. According to Currie, the average car crafter should strive for between 1 and 3 degrees between the tailshaft of the transmission and driveshaft, and 1 to 3 degrees between the driveshaft and pinion. Furthermore, the two angles should be nearly equal (between 1 and 3 degrees), but always opposite (see crude diagram).

Probably the two most common rear-suspension configurations to come out of Detroit on musclecars are the four-link and leaf-spring suspensions. On four-link–equipped automobiles, adjustable upper control arms are required to change the pinion angle (although in some cases, mild adjustments can be made by shimming the transmission mount). This is made possible by adjustable upper control arms from a number of aftermarket sources, including Dick Miller, Hotchkis, and Edelbrock. In the case of a leaf spring–equipped car, pinion angle is changed with angled wedges (shims) that are placed between the leaf spring and the shock-absorber mount (see photo). These wedges effectively rotate the differential forward or backwards depending on which way the wedge is facing.

Whether it’s for a 16-second daily driver or an 8-second door-slammer, the proper pinion angle is vital for delivering power safely and effectively to the rear wheels.


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Now, after grabbing my angle gauge and taking some measurements I found my angles were this in relation to the ground or rather 0 degrees:



Meaning that I was at the very outside limit of the supposed 1-3 degree operating range of the U-joints, and explaining why I was getting a light driveline vibration at 85+mph on the freeway.
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So with the car up in the air I figured it was time to try out a different pinion angle than what I had. First thing I needed to do was figure out what the current control arm lengths were set at and how much they needed to change. A few measurements later this is what the control arm lengths were on my AE86 (IE: stock lengths):

9 9/16" or 24.3 cm - Upper
18 5/8" or 47.3 cm - Lower

A quick measurement and calculation of the distance between the control arm mounting points on the differential gave me a rough estimate on how much I needed to change the length for each degree. That being said on the AE86 chassis:

3mm or 1/8" of control arm adjustment = about 1 degree. (ie: remove 1.5mm or 1/16" of length fromthe lower arms and add 1.5 to upper arms changes pinion angle 1 degree)

Knowing this I adjusted my control arms to the following lengths to give me a pinion angle of about 3.5 degrees. (Also, since I have traction brackets I get a little less than 1 degree of change per 3mm or 1/8" of adjustment.):

9 3/4" or 24.8cm - Upper
18 3/8" or 46.7cm - Lower


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Another reason I chose to go with 3.5 degrees as opposed to matching the 4 degrees that the engine/trans sits at is this:

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Due to the tendency of the pinion to rise under load, some angle must be present at rest.


Also, if you paid attention earlier you'd realize instead of having a negative pinion angle, I have a positive one. This is an unfortunate side effect of this particular chassis, suspension and the lowered ride height. The ride height is low enough that the differential pinion flange will not be low enough in relation to the engine/transmission to get the ideal negative pinion angle. While still having the ideal 'matching' angles for a one piece style driveshaft (see below). The most I was trying to do was get rid of the vibration.

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Ideally, the angles between the transmission output shaft and driveshaft, and between the driveshaft and the pinion will be equal and opposite.


After tightening everything back up, I took it on a quick test drive - vibration is gone, which will have to be good enough for now.

I'm going to go back and perhaps try a 2 degree pinion angle which will leave me a .5 degree negative pinion angle in relation to the driveshaft and see how that feels. Mostly because as an unfortunate side effect the more angle there is, the more torque it takes to overcome the difference. And we all know the smoking hot 100 whp that my car might have is just not enough and I need to conserve every last bit of power possible.

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Ok. Forgot to give another update after doing the adjustment/changes.

I've found 4 degrees is working the best on my cars setup with solid heim 4-link suspension. It's currently set as close to 4 degrees as I can get and is working pretty well.

The 3.5 was still causing a vibration, just a lot higher up in the mph range than before. (so it was better, but not fixed)

Andrew




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